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		<title>#valueofart Paul Chan</title>
		<link>http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/2013/04/09/valueofart-paul-chan/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2013 20:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Have you ever read those stories about how people produce bio-electricity? And that some of us produce more bio-electricity than others, enough so there is a strong-enough electromagnetic field that it disrupts electronic devices, like cell phones and computers? I like to think sometimes that art is a thing that produces a kind of charge [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Have you ever read those stories about how people produce bio-electricity? And that some of us produce more bio-electricity than others, enough so there is a strong-enough electromagnetic field that it disrupts electronic devices, like cell phones and computers? I like to think sometimes that art is a thing that produces a kind of charge that makes nothing work. Then we can look at these things that don&#8217;t work and decide whether they are in fact worth their weight for us.&#8221;</p>
	<p>from the <a href="https://store.mcsweeneys.net/products/the-believer-november-slash-december-2012-art-issue" target="_blank">2012 Believer Art issue</a> <a href="http://www.believermag.com/issues/201211/?read=interview_chan" target="_blank">interview with Paul Chan</a>
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		<title>Placemaking with Public Art: Who decides?</title>
		<link>http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/2011/02/24/placemaking-with-public-art-who-decides/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eleanor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[VSmoothe over at A Better Oakland has a recap of a recent Oakland Planning Commission Meeting in which the above Oaksterdam University signage was judged to violate Oakland business signage size ordinances.  As she notes, since &#8220;the Planning Commission was clearly sympathetic to Oaksterdam University&#8221; discussion turned to redoing the sign as a &#8220;mural&#8221; or [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href="http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/oaksterdamsignonwall-450x253.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/danramarch/4320769126/"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2252" style="border: 0pt none;" title="oaksterdam" src="http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/oaksterdam.jpg" alt="" width="486" height="259" /></a></p>
	<p>VSmoothe over at <a href="http://www.abetteroakland.com/" target="_blank">A Better Oakland</a> has a <a href="http://www.abetteroakland.com/what-criteria-should-be-used-to-select-public-art/2011-02-21" target="_blank">recap of a recent Oakland Planning Commission Meeting</a> in which the above Oaksterdam University signage was judged to violate Oakland business signage size ordinances.  As she notes, since &#8220;the Planning Commission was clearly sympathetic to Oaksterdam University&#8221; discussion turned to redoing the sign as a &#8220;mural&#8221; or &#8220;special sign&#8221; in order to skirt the legal issues.  As this discussion has been going on for a year, Oaksterdam had already put out an open call to attract artists to redesign the sign as a mural.  This is when the Planning Commission decided it was their place to choose which of these public art proposals should go forward.</p>
	<p>There is a fundamental problem when the planning commission is choosing artwork.   That is not their job, and the fact that <a href="http://vimeo.com/20213840" target="_blank">they refused the help of Oakland Public Art Advisory Commission </a>is deplorable.  Steven Huss politely and rightly offered the <a href="http://www2.oaklandnet.com/Government/o/CEDA/o/Redevelopment/o/CulturalArtsMarketing/DOWD008320" target="_blank">PAAC</a>&#8216;s services, since it is their place to help decide on works of public art, but also because they have experience guiding organizations, businesses, and individuals in matters of budget, permits, and the hurdles that one has to cross when working with artwork in the public sphere.  But instead, the Planning Commission moved forward with their own opinions, deciding which work had the &#8220;broadest appeal&#8221; and which was too &#8220;on the edge.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Here&#8217;s the one the planning commission preferred:</p>
	<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/oaksterdammural11.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-2249 aligncenter" title="oaksterdammural1" src="http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/oaksterdammural11.jpg" alt="" width="486" height="185" /></a>Proposal 1</p>
	<p style="text-align: left;">And here&#8217;s what V Smoothe had to say:</p>
	<blockquote><p>I mean, the whole original discussion about the idea of sign or mural  was about placemaking. And whether one thinks this mural is pretty or  not, it certainly doesn’t have anything to do with the neighborhood.  Oaksterdam is not on Lake Merritt, nor is it at Oakland City Hall. I  live in the heart of Oaksterdam, and I cannot see either Lake Merritt or  City Hall from my apartment. The only thing about the mural that  identifies the neighborhood at all is the text with the name of the  business.  <a href="http://www.abetteroakland.com/what-criteria-should-be-used-to-select-public-art/2011-02-21" target="_blank">read more&gt;&gt;</a></p></blockquote>
	<p>If we&#8217;re talking about a mural with a purpose for place-making, that  mural should be judged not only for relevance to the area and the people  there, but also specifically for it&#8217;s innovation and interpretation of  those concepts. This proposal does not address the specific  locality as a place, other than being located in Oakland.</p>
	<p>A mural will not assist in place-making if 1. it does not address the specific place and 2. is aesthetically bland.  Artworks and architecture can have a drastic effect on the community and pride of an area, especially if it is something that stands out.  <a href="http://99percentinvisible.org/post/1093531700/download-embed-share-episode-02-99-180" target="_blank">The TransAmerica Pyramid was deplored when it was built.</a> But what would the San Francisco skyline be without it?  Bold moves are sometimes required.  Risk is rewarded with awareness, even if some people hate it.  <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/cultureshock/flashpoints/visualarts/tiltedarc_a.html" target="_blank">Richard Serra&#8217;s Titled Arc was eventually removed</a>, but now many people think of Federal Plaza as the place where it existed.</p>
	<p>Here are two other top contenders for the Oaksterdam mural:</p>
	<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2253" style="border: 0pt none;" title="oaksterdammural2-450x196" src="http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/oaksterdammural2-450x196.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="196" /><br />
Proposal 2</p>
	<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2254" title="oaksterdammural3-450x319" src="http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/oaksterdammural3-450x319.jpg" alt="" /><br />
Proposal 3</p>
	<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.thepresentgroup.com/prize" target="_blank">Since we&#8217;re all into voting these days</a>, which do you like the best?  Perhaps an art audience has a slightly different opinion than the Planning Commission?</p>
	<p>Note: There is a poll embedded within this post, please visit the site to participate in this post's poll.
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		<title>Value of Art: (Public Funding) Steve Lambert</title>
		<link>http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/2010/09/16/value-of-art-public-funding-steve-lambert/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eleanor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[found via Joseph del Pesco]]></description>
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		<title>Value of Art: Enrique Martinez Celaya</title>
		<link>http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/2010/07/05/value-of-art-enrique-martinez-celaya/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eleanor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;A meaningful life consists of a person struggling to make real, in the world he or she encounters at birth, the imaginary personage who constitutes his or her true self.  The reason art matters is because it&#8217;s a testimony of this struggle.&#8221; -Enrique Martinez Celaya, in Guide, 2002   found in Works and Conversations, #19]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>&#8220;A meaningful life consists of a person struggling to make real, in the world he or she encounters at birth, the imaginary personage who constitutes his or her true self.  The reason art matters is because it&#8217;s a testimony of this struggle.&#8221;</p>
	<p>-<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Martinez_Celaya" target="_blank">Enrique Martinez Celaya</a>, in Guide, 2002<br />
  found in <a href="http://www.conversations.org/issue.php?id=19" target="_blank">Works and Conversations, #19</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Value of Art: Starzshine</title>
		<link>http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/2010/05/19/value-of-art-starzshine/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 19:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eleanor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In her comment in her response to Long Day&#8217;s Journey: 8 Hours With Artist Marina Abramovic, starzshine taps into the value of art. Try as I may I was unable to get him to understand the sadness I felt when looking into the depth of a Rothko, but it kept comming back to the Abramovic [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In her comment in her response to <a href="http://jezebel.com/5540839/long-days-journey-8-hours-with-artist-marina-abramovi?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+jezebel%2Ffull+%28Jezebel%29" target="_blank">Long Day&#8217;s Journey: 8 Hours With Artist Marina Abramovic</a>, <a href="http://jezebel.com/people/starzshine/" target="_blank">starzshine</a> taps into the value of art.</p>
	<blockquote><p>Try as I may I was unable to get him to understand the sadness I felt when looking into the depth of a Rothko, but it kept comming back to the Abramovic performance. He would go to the window&#8230; look, and then comment again on how pointless the whole thing was. Over, and over.</p>
	<p>I finally had to say, &#8220;I don&#8217;t care how you feel about it. The point is that you feel something. You keep looking, you keep talking about it. Isn&#8217;t that what art is about? To convey an emotion, to make you participate in an experience?&#8221;</p>
	<p>He didn&#8217;t know.</p>
	<p>All I could do was shake my head.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Value of Art: Tyler Green</title>
		<link>http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/2010/04/21/value-of-art-tyler-green/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eleanor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the nice things about art is that it provides refuge from other people&#8217;s chaos, a place to think, quietly. -Tyler Green, Modern Art Notes via Twitter]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One of the nice things about art is that it provides refuge from other people&#8217;s chaos, a place to think, quietly.</p>
	<p>-<a href="http://twitter.com/tylergreenDC" target="_blank">Tyler Green</a>, <a href="http://www.artsjournal.com/man/" target="_blank">Modern Art Notes</a> via <a href="http://www.twitter.com" target="_blank">Twitter</a>
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		<title>Value of Art: Sea Ranch Chapel Edition</title>
		<link>http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/2010/04/05/value-of-art-sea-ranch-chapel-edition/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eleanor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the Brochure (my italics): The Sea Ranch Chapel is a gift of two Sea Ranch residents who wished to offer a nondenominational sanctuary for prayer, meditation, and spiritual renewal.  It was their hope that all who enter will find a measure of peace in the blending of art and purpose amid surroundings of beauty [...]]]></description>
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	<p>From the Brochure (my italics):</p>
	<p>The <a href="http://www.thesearanchchapel.org/" target="_blank">Sea Ranch Chapel</a> is a gift of two Sea Ranch residents who wished to offer a nondenominational sanctuary for prayer, meditation, and spiritual renewal.  It was their hope that all who enter will find a measure of peace in the blending of art and purpose amid surroundings of beauty and inspiration.</p>
	<p>The chapel is dedicated to the memory of a young man, navy aviator, artist, and zoologist, who believed that <em>art is the intermediary between the physical and the spiritual</em>.</p>
	<p><a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=sea+ranch+chapel&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;ei=Ez26S8_5A4rQsgO_7YjpDA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=image_result_group&amp;ct=title&amp;resnum=4&amp;ved=0CB8QsAQwAw" target="_blank">more images here (LMGTFY).</a>
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		<title>The Value of Art: Bernard Berenson</title>
		<link>http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/2010/03/23/the-value-of-art-bernard-berenson/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eleanor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[J. Carter Brown talking about his mentor Bernard Berenson: According to Brown, the elder art historian &#8220;found, at the end of his life, that his great experiences came in his daily walk, which he did at the end of the day up behind I Tatti, where, he said, the fruits of a lifetime of looking [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Carter_Brown" target="_blank">J. Carter Brown</a> talking about his mentor <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Berenson" target="_blank">Bernard Berenson</a>:</p>
	<blockquote><p>According to Brown, the elder art historian &#8220;found, at the end of his life, that his great experiences came in his daily walk, which he did at the end of the day up behind I Tatti, where, he said, the fruits of a lifetime of looking at art objects allowed him to look at nature in a newly meaningful way.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
	<p>found in &#8220;Reciprocal Generosity&#8221; by <a href="http://www.maryjanejacob.org/" target="_blank">Mary Jane Jacob</a> in<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/What-Want-Free-Generosity-Postmodern/dp/0791462900" target="_blank">What we want is free, generosity and exchange in recent art</a><br />
edited by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Purves" target="_blank">Ted Purves</a>
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		<title>Value of Art: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blog.thepresentgroup.com/2010/02/05/value-of-art-anonymous/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Why go on? I believe in art and artist as perhaps society&#8217;s last free agents.  Artists and children augur change, and no one listens to children.&#8221; from &#8220;Personal Economy #11&#8221; by Anonymous included in &#8220;Art Work: A National Conversation about Art, Labor, and Economics&#8220;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Why go on? I believe in art and artist as perhaps society&#8217;s last free agents.  Artists and children augur change, and no one listens to children.&#8221;</p>
	<p>from &#8220;<a href="http://www.artandwork.us/2009/12/personal-economy-11/" target="_blank">Personal Economy #11</a>&#8221; by Anonymous<br />
included in &#8220;<a href="http://www.artandwork.us/" target="_blank">Art Work: A National Conversation about Art, Labor, and Economics</a>&#8220;
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